tv Discussion on the Latino Vote CSPAN February 29, 2016 10:28pm-11:43pm EST
within the mandate so the studies of congressional presidential studies it just does important committed to communicate the results to do that we draw only non on the expertise of the faculty but the knowledge of the researchers didn't practitioners from other institutions that reflects our commitment to recruiting expertise from beyond and within the confines of american university. he and other campuses in think tanks and consulting firms. each year refocus on the specific topic that seems timely for the latino communities to understand how they impact the broader landscape of public affairs and relaunched this 2013 but we were not yet calling it the annual forum so the first one was 2015 although
some of you have been coming for several years you were puzzled as to why we call it the second annual that is the explanation. we focused on immigration policy last year having made in annual undertaking focusing on latinos in the republican party in that topic remains today as important as we anticipated one year ago and we anticipate it will come up but today it is the impact of latinos on the election and a way to frame that is the impact of the election on the community's in behaviors in the impact of latinos with the longer term configuration of the american political landscape.
i think we'll have plenty of opportunity to discuss. and to take the time to join us. also special thanks to my colleague. he really took the leadership to pull this together with design and logistics' with support of others on the staff i am very grateful to all of them. we will organize this is sessions in the first panels moderated by a -- will recover the primaries end the party's efforts resuscitate -- sustain its advantage we will hear latinos will affect the outcome in the general but
also how the primary campaigns of both may influence political behavior jim is director for center of a presidential studies city university professor his contributions to the study of american politics are many. protocol your attention to his recently published book american gridlock. the second panel moderated by my colleague in the department of government who directs our graduate program and conducts research on a wide range of issues of political behavior including creches of ethnic diversity and related issues. i will moderate a third panel that we label the wild
card in the swing state is what we see as a wild card i will leave you in suspense and address that this afternoon over the course of the discussions additional wild cards come to the floor and we will discuss these. before turning it over, let me say we want this to be an opportunity for the panelists to share their ideas but also questions and answers in discussion and we can do that at each session. thank you. [applause] >>. >> we will have millions watch this at 3:00 in the
morning when they don't have anything to do. we get a lot of deals at 3:00 for 4:00 in the morning is of pleasure to work with you manage your staff. we have a great panel. we do have forms to bring together academics and journalists and professionals and pollsters and we have that today is the views between the two parties. but let me put this into context generally. their 27 million hispanic voters troll% in the
electorate to make a significant impact on this election if there are 600,000 latino voters whether they turnout or not this is especially important in north carolina and virginia if you look at the breakdown of previous presidential elections latinos had a significant impact. obama took 71 percent that was 44 percent more than romney. in 2008 he took 67 percent which is 36% more than republicans or mccain.
george w. bush did better with the hispanic voters who been any other republican candidate. this year we plan this to come after the super -- before the super primary we will know if trump has it or not if it is a clean sweep we will know about cruz and rubio. he has to take 20% in he may not. the panel's that we have first is very short statements of five minutes for an overview related to the republican primary then we will go into a q&a on the
panel with people not interrupting that commenting then the go to the audience is full of people who really know this academics and students in journalist we want to have many questions from the audience so the first panel focuses on what will the republicans do with this strategy? we have some experts here to talk about that. what are the effects of the republican in discourse? and here we talk about trump in the law about the mexican government with the anti-immigrant in he has insulted a lot of people and it has an impact on the
primaries in the general election. can a republican candidate improve on historically small proportion of hispanic voters? is the of latino or key bin background of cruz and rubio meaningful this year for latino voters? is the heritage relevant and what does this stand of the latino voters on immigration and their reaction to the republican and democratic party of the deportations of obama and will that have an impact on the primaries? we have three outstanding people to talk about that. the president of public opinion strategy and adjunct professor who is very --
fairly loyal but and he is the primary of the pollster and focused empirically on the latino vote and can speak to that. to my left is a director of the republican leadership committee and involved to recruit more latinos to get people registered in has worked for years on not reach strategies and is right at the center of what must be frustrating reynaud with the leading candidate at this point with what
you're trying to do. and professor here at american university we miss you david the academic units are like baseball teams summer out in the suburbs somewhere they said i will never forgive you prepare your doing such good work but more specifically to know about demographic of the of latino voters. let me begin with the few remarks then we will end with david.
>> thanks to american university is an incredibly important topic i am latina and of course, and i in the executive director of the future majority project to identify recruit and train women and minorities and i have been in this role about three years the project has been enormously successful republican project has recruited hundreds of candidates we have been helpful to elect 72 new candidates over 250 new winded for office. many times it is the first time to identify those best candidates to represent their districts in their communities and they are winning in states where we
have not won before. and the we have created a number of first as a result of the very first the tina to serve in the mississippi legislature and also helped to elect the only african american in female lieutenant governor in the country also the only latino of lieutenant governor in the country so we can flip majorities in colorado and new mexico and maintain in arizona with washington eric cook -- in minnesota so the community is emerging and established or about to end the republican party tries
to find the best candidates for the we have seen it interesting trend that may be familiar if you're watching iowa the vast majority about 60% of the republican electorate chose a hispanic or minority candidate as their candidate for president combined with carson in cruz did rubio it is 60% not a place that is typically known as diverse although there demographics are changing as well. we feel this is an important project to help diversify and legislatures now. for example, marco rubio was
the first hispanic speaker of the house. to build up party from the ground that it has been enormously successful with those nine diverse voters with women and other minority communities. >> you have recent data sent to find out what you are doing with turnout and how that is going. >> i am always excited to come to american university i graduated in to be supportive of the programs here every time the doctor extent's invitation and also
coming to as many basketball games as nike and. it is a reflection of my schedule is not of the team that that 31 years ago in the winter with campaign management institute to steer me into my current occupation and. i did not want to become a pollster but she is here today. they q. [applause] yes i was very reluctant at that key juncture in my life i'm excited to see her here today. according to the exit polls
this shows what republicans have gotten of the latino vote and if you look at the time the republicans have gotten 35 percent or more you can win that election and. and they have lost the elections. and with just 27% over romney that is the largest percentage of the electorate. hinted 2014 it is not likely to be replicated in 2016. looking at what the
candidates has been saying what is the strategy of the republican party coming to hispanic voters? to bear with me to make your heated into a gun and shoot yourself in the foot that is what we're doing. those who attack latinos are bad at math. there is a bigger part of the electorate into underscore that would get the exit polls by ethnicity of in the electorate was 72% that will not recur it is more likely to be 70% and they get six out of 10 so
where is that big fluctuation? one is 3% with asian-americans is the latino vote that makes a difference the republicans won in 2014 by getting over 35 percent in just 27% just in case they are confused going lower is a bad thing in higher is a good thing. but i will show you one last chart the look at that winning coalition i ethnicity.
republicans need to win give them 10 percent of african-americans and 40 percent of asians and 45 percent of other of the subgroups without adding up together debt 39% so look at where we have to improve is latinos is and asians there is a two way race. the idea of attacking them runs counter to the math. >> it is great to be back here with my colleagues in there couldn't be a more timely topic talk about
republican party is in the latino was your old enough to remember those debates. [laughter] what am i doing here? but i am a political scientist of that coalition so that i may have something to contribute we will talk more about that but in some ways as an aberration in trump is unique but as it relates to this issue more the culmination of a trend there and the allied air supply would give a historical background that he doesn't, out of nowhere. party leaders are trying to have new constituencies
sometimes they build on that base. so reagan took the republican party to bring in those social conservatives like abortion. and they did not clash with the agenda of the business community. but whether we talk about that republican efforts to say laky and northern new hampshire how to get to boston? he said you can get there from here. that is the story of the republican party right now.
since 64 they will not allow them to reach out effectively. sold very quickly review things 1964 to say hunt where the ducks are. but to the extent the party now has a lot of voters better ethnocentric that is a result of a lot of republican leaders and is constrained. without opposition to the civil rights act. richard nixon that smoother version with attacks on welfare queens.
id will sing using proposition 187 it is a wedge issue that is not specific to latinos end was embraced by leaders of the national republican party that second president bush to move away to abandon affirmative action. fund the administration but he failed to reorient the party. that was consistent with the business community but by
then the face rejected this basically from the talk-radio hosts a failed in congress but primarily because of republican members. and then we saw the teapartier backlash as scholars that have shown there is a large element of concern of immigrants that animates the two-party result of the altar of asking to see obama as per certificate and then there was an autopsy from the rnc with the 2012 campaign.
in that to build the border fence. that was to be a major challenge and was hurt greatly to be more moderate to get to their right. after they lose that 2012 election there is a commissioner report that is within the engage in debate emergence -- emerges but with sales because of the republicans in the house.
eric cantor lost his primary for renomination they think immigration with the base to the two soft. so revealing that context it doesn't just come out of nowhere a course there are the unusual figure but he is inheriting a lot of support as a result of actions taken of republican leaders over many decades by know a lot of leaders want to move in the other direction but they are constrained like those exit polls. usually the insurgent candidate doesn't do so well with those identifiers.
that is the stories of bernie sanders bin barack obama or senator mccain if you look at trump he does about as low as a republican identifier. he has attracted and mobilized a vote that is already there and that is a challenge. the last thing is in the short term republicans can still win. the win the vote was growing with the voting rights act. the party of abraham lincoln went another way. hoping to get those votes in their work to short-term.
there is more than one way to get the 50%. and compared to those republicans it is possible if you cannot just say one segment has grown there are different ways to get to a majority. and though said to want to target latinos despite best efforts are constrained by the base that has been built over many years. >> so what is to be done by the republican party? >> if you look at the data
highest to date before that was michael dukakis. so dukakis. so these two are well beyond that, the dukakis record. and so she has huge problems as well, which is a challenge becausea challenge because you see the opportunity where she can be defeated. it is just hard to see a candidate being the one to do that. given his statements, i think he is just getting started on driving up his negatives, but that all said, i think you'll see a message of,a message of, look, we need balance, one party rule does not work well. don't give her blank check. >> what are you doing to try to bring in more latino voters? >> i will address a number of subjects. latino and other diverse candidates, but it is no
secret that put together a direct initiative to be on the ground and recruit, volunteers to engage the community. andand thus far the initiative has been a success. i worked for the hispanic vote. the general election, but we won north carolina. the real percentage for the republicans in the state. a successful strategy
because someone invested, invested at least 11 million in recruiting new candidates. the 1st sort of test ground for this type of initiative is what the republican national committee put together, 2014, receiving 36 percent of the vote which led to the elections of swings in the states that colorado for cory gardner florida for rick scott most notably greg abbott 144 percent. quite significant and larger than the predecessor previous. this initiative seems to be working very hard to engage the hispanic community. i am obviously a result of the hispanic community, and they are not monolithic.
the us is not monolithic. i can tell you republican from arkansas is not the same as one from washington oregon or hispanic. there won't be the same as when they grew up on the border and taxes are miami. it is a very different culture and country. one of the things that excites me about the hispanic community is that 85% of hispanics already living in the us are citizens or are in the process of becoming citizens. we tend to focus on the smaller percentage of hispanics which may be undocumented are not citizens or permanent residents, but any combination of that is still significantly less than the majority which are in addition to being not monolithic because we live all over the country and have all sorts of opinions and come from all different backgrounds and have manner
of perspectives, we also largely focus on other issues which are not related immigration. i think you know somebody which is an important topic, but there are a number of different issues in many states where being successful. at the state level we focus on the issues. and on that front when we recruit candidates that reflect the communities, the emerging leaders in the state and when we have good campaigns and do good work we find that we win.
>> latino specifically. >> well, i agree that latinos are diverse. that is true of lots. i think that i really don't -- i think that the candidate recruitment efforts just being discussed in the long-term is important because when they want to have candidates for higher offices this is the team from which those candidates emerge.
i am neutral. the republicans have to lose. they have to lose more elections. it is painful for parties to change. people like to do what they have been doing. most of the elected officials have been elected doing the same old thing. the constituents is have the policies they prefer. parties of changed. if we look historically in a response to repeated defeat. bill clinton and the new democrats in the doc emerged after landslide defeats. democrats lost three presidential elections overwhelmingly and bill clinton was the response to that. in britain the labor party handlers for elections based upon the economy and then got to tony blair. the conservative party recently, the same story.
republicans have won congressionalone congressional elections recently. it is true, they lost a barack obama but can explain 200808 because of the economic collapse and 2012 is a close election. romney did better than mccain. it was not overwhelming. so given the constraints that the base has placed on them they will not be able to break free from that until they can clearly make the argument that what is being done is really not working. i think they have to lose some more. that would be a good start in terms of reform. >> thank you.you. last question for me. tell us a little bit more about turnout by latinos nationally over time but also a few states that are key.
but what we have seen, at least from the last census is that a significant amount of hispanics have moved to other states, particularly the midwest,midwest, deep south. the combination of intrastate migration and just the process of hispanics turnout will increase and will fluctuate. a lot of times when you have the hispanic community. another state say the case of iowa and illinois. you see a really large percent increase. why is this happening? i would not necessarily would.
they would argue due to high taxes and better, they find better education possibilities in iowa. so now you have hispanic families that may trick -- traditionally vote democrat. i found just as the non-hispanic population, significant amount of folks that were there. a better climate and now they are voting in north carolina. seecarolina. see the same thing in arizona. increase the hispanic voter share command a good part of that increase in the percentage is because the moving from california.
>> what does your organization do and what does it do now? >> so what we have seen in general, republican enthusiasm is really high. much higher than it is for the democrats. that will be interesting for the presidential particularly the places are committee focus on. republican enthusiasm is up and you see that in the members of particularly in the primaries where we have been able to gauge so far. recruiting and electing republicans. a lot of the turnout work is done by the
public and national committee in terms of their database and voter turnout in general, particularly with the engagement of communities. state-level leaders are heavily engaged on policy, at historic highs of the state controlling 69 of 99 legislative chambers largely due to our engagement of the voters at the local level which goes up in the engagement the top-level comes down. we have been working with the carcasses to not just recruit and help elect women and minority candidates but also to help the caucus reach out to diverse communities of the local level to turn out the voter for their state elections. >> for ways for groups to
increase clout, one of ofclouds, one of which is run for office and when, as mr. martinez was talking about and focusing. number two is provide volunteers, three is make contributions, and for his turn out and vote. that, i vote. that, i think, is the one where, as the professor said, if republicans continue to lose elections because they are getting lower numbers of hispanic voters, that is what republicans willwhere republicans will learn their lesson. at the same time, republicans have done well with hispanics and a number of different races. soso the latino vote is open for republicans to go out and do better, the mid-romney low.of 27 percent. the top ten states in the country, seven of them have
republican governors, and those seven governors have done well with the latino community. so in terms of focusing on increased turnout, i think that the gop enthusiasm we have seen in terms of total numbers of votes cast in this primary compared to others is significant. the democrats, if trump is the nominee, democratic enthusiasm will not come from their burning love for hillary clinton. it is more likely to come from -- and i think thati think that you will see hillary and the democrats running negative campaigns to try to juice enthusiasm among latinos and african-americans and what is left of their white voter support as well. >> would you like to add anything? >> i agree with what everyone said. quickly double edge sword.
the politics of immigration of changed. much more focused against african-americans. reagan was more supportive, but at that point latinos were not on the radar screen of people in iowa, white voters in north carolina and georgia and iowa. now they are, and the backlash, the wave that trump is surfing on is in places like this. so it is a double-edged sword. >> let's go to the audience.
we have a microphone. tell us who you are. it would be nice if you had one question rather than the european approach of four. no fence europeans. >> let's have your hand up and tell us who you are and what your question is. >> here in va you school of communication focusing on the rnc databases and digital outreach strategies. curious what kind of perceptions and/or value judgments about latino voters and hispanic voters are being baked into the code and the outreach strategies when it comes to ted crews is mobile app for the database of voters and how they are using those perceptions of hispanics when they trained volunteers to talk to voters.
it is kind of open for anyone. >> that is a good and annual question best suited for someone that works for the quick and national committee because i worked republican state leadership committee. we are separate. i am aware of the work, but could not tell you that specifically because someone that is specifically in the committee would have to answer. i think data collection works both ways. when you collect data you function off some assumptions. and when you receive data your probably surprised by results. if you are doing it right you have assumptions and surprises after. so exactly what those are i cannot tell you, but i can tell you that the more you do that and the more work and effort that you put into something like that the more
efficient your strategy will be in the end. >> would you like to go at it? >> no. it was a good question. >> great question. >> if. >> if i can find someone answer that question. >> another question. >> hi. >> speak into the microphone. >> just interested in joke jail -- joe eldridge, thank you for this illuminating panel. the impact of having a latino or hispanic on the ballot has on turnout. >> the question. >> it will be positive. i think we have models for that. in terms of the governors of latino descent.
for example, governor sandoval and martinez are two cochairs enormously successful and they were successful with the latino community. one of the reasons they were successful is we attack -- we assume that we have an awesome candidate: we have an inclusive message that only affects minority communities. they get excited about that kind of candidate and messaging, so i think a couple of things, iowa, the
crate percentage of largely non-hispanic voters that voted for a hispanic candidate, they were not hispanic but excited about someone that was of diverse ethnicity. in the cases of sandoval, martinez, nikki haley, the voters getting excited about those kind of candidates, it is not just folks that -- it is other folks as well and anytime you have a strong candidate with a strong message is a recipe. >> the policy position has a clear strategy? >> it is always a combination of both. you can determine on your knowledge of humanity that some folks will be interested in policy
initiatives, some of their personal story and background, ethnicity, some motivated because someone knocked on the door and talked to them and communicated a message. you cannot tell what it is the drove that voter to the ballot to an exact science, butscience, but a combination of positive influences help the overall campaign. >> quick control, you pulled out. >> jobs, national security concerns that other ethnic groups have as well. obviously hispanic voters are expensive when candidates talk dismissively about immigrant data, but
going back to the question number one, it is amazing to me that the democratic party is all about diversity and then they try to get it out there that people like marco rubio and ted crews, not real hispanics because they are not in a pretty bad indictment the other observation they want to vote for minority candidates provided the cure their views on issues.issues.
marco rubio, brian sandoval, all good examples. been carson, one of the reasons he did so well and when he was awake he did not understand national security. there were a lot of republican voters, most of whom are white saying here is someone who agrees with me on issues and is african-american, i can easily support him in the more he was road tested the less he was up for the job. >> just for you, but others can weigh in. there is always this talk that the cubans are different than the puerto ricans and the guatemalans.
for a non-latino that is when the conversation stops. could you give us a sample of some of those differences? >> cubans don't eat spicy food, big difference. chicanos do. certainly cultural differences within the different folks in the united states that maybe their parents or their themselves came from out of the country like you would find differences of folks from different countries. the hispanic community in the united states comes from many different countries. even within the spanish-language, different words for things, communicatethings, communicate differently. caribbean's are different than latin americans, south americans, but you would find nuances and difference because they come from different countries.
some of those are music, food, communication style, some is cultural. that is not really the most important issue. we talk about the community. i think one of the very important lessons is that i do not identify as cuban. my parents are cuban, culture as cuban, i speak spanglish, but i am an american and identify as such and vote as such. i represent americans. we can get into the nuances. i have also been able to travel to the southwest. now i love spicy food. a lot of different aspects
>> this question is for marrying glenn. what i got from this is republicans can do a good job. within the latino population and then you see someone like marco rubio and now it is just on the 180. when your at the national level you are clashing against the base. you mentioned it is annoying very it is insulting. you say you love latinos and
stephen king comparators to dogs. >> i'm not sure i heard the last question. the question that i heard was why the republicans have challenges more on the federal level, what the challenges facing the party. professor carol did a good job of laying those out. look, i don't think that that king is right. he is wrong. that kind of rhetoric has no place in american not just politics but culture or decency whatsoever. ..
>> there are tons of americans from all walks of life will change their name. i don't know about that either. >> thank you. >> your question exactly is, what kind of message does, can you explain your question? [inaudible] >> okay, on the federal level takers and mark rubio are u.s. senators so they would have one statewide at a federal level.
in. in terms of presidential, that's another story. we have not won these past couple presidential cycles. i think the republican party has done a deep analysis why into a degree they can reach out to the voters they need to reach out. they're doing doing everything they can to do that. to the degree we can recruit more women and minority candidates to represent the republican party we are also doing that. i cannot speak for the decisions of any one particular hispanic candidate or not on terms of how they identify themselves. i would not pretend to represent all hispanics in this country either. i think it's important to remember that in the places where republican party feels like they have some opportunity for growth, they're making very strong effort and strong initiatives and funding initiatives. these initiatives are unique to the republican party. there is no direct initiative
for example to recruit and support women and minority candidates to the level that they are engaged or even to the growth and opportunity project to the level they are engaged. there's nothing on the other side. i think i think it's not just a talking point, i think they're investing resources and the republican party feels very strongly there is room for growth and feels very strongly that with the right message and write messengers we can continue making gains. >> a couple of things, few questions brought it before, these divisions of national origins in the latino community it sounds like they are relevant. the cuban-american community as a a small, it's very common in florida new jersey, but it's a small minority overall of the latino community in the united states. yet both of the republican presidential candidates who are hispanic are cuban-american, i don't think that's an accident.
i don't know what mexican american voters if that will be all that helpful if either one was the nominee which appears to be unlikely right now. the other thing is, we can look at past examples of parties running somebody from an ethnic group without embracing policy preferred by the ethnic group and it really doesn't work. so the republican party has run african-american, not for for president but has run african-american candidates for high office, governor in michigan, ohio, senate in maryland, michael still ran against -- people may remember in pennsylvania. that's not really make a big impact. they were not seen as representing the interests of the community. so not sure that ted cruz running on build a wall would
have a big positive impact for republicans among latino voters, or even to be nominated which to seems unlikely right now. >> we have time for two more questions. one here. >> sorry, if i could i could just add on the african-americans icon just for where we are right now, of very rich african-americans stayed in south carolina lloyd rutherford also african-american is the only lieutenant african-american in the country. also i think you're going to see this trending further and more positively as we move. >> sir, your name please. >> hi, michael mccarthy from the center for latin american studies. my question every person on the panel can address it has to do
with the question about what it is we mean when we talk about being latino. in particular how do you actually recruit a latino, how do you identify who is and who is not a latino when you get out there at the street level and you're looking for potential candidates. what is the basis of the last name, is it census data, how census data, how do you pack by these people? similarly for glenn and david i be interested at what the macrolevel data is if it's harder to track who latinos are and whether or not the assumptions that go into the latino vote still apply as immigration demographic trends change. >> in terms of recruitment, latino and hispanic is a self identified marker. i think people self identify hispanic and latino, i do not not identify people they identify themselves as that. so in terms of the political
strategy of identifying candidates, first we look at top target seats in top target races in the chambers where we are going to invest the most amount of resources which we feel we could take the democrat. that is to say that we do not just recruit candidate for the purpose of recruiting candidates. we are recruiting candidates in the places where we are most likely to win. so that we get more elected officials. that's what really makes a difference. difference. in terms of that political strategy, i travel to a number of states that different times. to identify one of the biggest targets and how do we find the best candidates. as simple as that, that is the political strategy. i think it's important to find someone from that community. when we find the person the community that identify a
hispanic or latino and we do recruit in diverse communities as well, african-american, asian, et cetera. but we look for the best candidate to represent the district and we try to bring more diversity to the ballot and to the legislature, i think republican states genuinely love this initiative and are very supportive of it. >> do you get outside support from other groups in your efforts? like super pacs and others. >> we do not coordinate, where own separate organization. >> i think that it's very important from a political science for the work of my former colleague is that recruitment is very important in the decision as politicals,
become candidates for we know it's more for women than men. men are more willing to put themselves forward and actually not so qualified. at the same level women are less likely to think they're qualified. i think it's very important and i think a student or parties the organization that mary's part of an democratic state focus groups are really modern developments. 30 years ago this was not really happening in a serious way. state party campaign committees have developed in a way that was not several decades ago either. recruitment suffered exist and are important. i do do want to emphasize that as long as community believes that a party does not represent its interests
on policy, it's not a question whether they are authentic representatives of the community, if they are authentic they don't represent the policy the community wants. i believe these are laudable efforts, i don't think having just candidates of a certain ethnicity is a certain solution. whether were talking about latino voters are african-american voters or any other group. >> thank you very much panelists, i am sorry we are out of time for another question. please ask our panelists a question during question during the break. we will take about a four minute break between the next panel to set up. the next panel is the democrats and the latino advantage. thank you. [applause]. thanks for the great questions, five-minute break.
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speemac@washington post.com, this is the headline of the republican party's implosion over republican party's implosion over donald trump's candidacy has arrived. joining us from georgia, thank you for being with us. >> anytime you have the first sentence of your story including enclosure and and questions whether they can come together this election year's spells trouble for the gop, can you explain. >> the. >> is a historical moment within the republican party, anything unlike unlike i've seen in the post- george w. bush era. a chaos and division between the grassroot conservative who are backing donald trump were unhappy about illegal immigration or elite side of the party at the trump and they're
not now at odds with each other keeping with presidential process aware watching in real time as a major political party implodes on itself. >> we covered marco rubio who said the candidacy of donald trump remained scary. over over the weekend the endorsement by another supporter of donald trump. are some of of the establishment now admitted that trump is the republican nominee? >> the session and oarsman of trump is significant because sessions is the heart and soul of the populace right within the republican party. so hardliner in trade and immigration, he is very much in line with trump's own position. more striking was the recent endorsement of new jersey governor chris christie of trump. he is one of several major establishment figures that is gravitati